I am half way through listening to your book on audible...what I have appreciated most so far is the connection you make between faith and practice....a connection I pray more white christians make in this upcoming election...
"I contend that racism, however horrific, is unsurprising. There are always people willing to count themselves superior in order to exploit others." -- This is so true: bullies on the playground, "mean girls", any group that looks down on others because of financial status, dress, beliefs, background, job, etc. It seems to be natural for us sinners to put others down so we can be 'better than'. If Christians, at least, fully accepted their identity in Christ, this shouldn't happen.
"My thesis in The Color of Compromise was that, on the whole, white Christians in the United States demonstrated complicity with racism instead of confronting it." -- If this weren't true, then we would see much more racial justice today than we do.
I have already purchased your book before it was released, & after I just became a paid subscriber. (Thanks to your free podcast to new folks.)Please give the book offered here to another who cannot afford it.
William J. Seymour & the Azusa Street Revival described in “The Spirit of Justice” & by PBS
After George Floyd’s murder, I received pushback from Christian loved ones. One friend corrected my praying for revival with collective confessions by Christians for our ancestors’ past & our present sins of superiority over fellow humanity—also made with equal amounts of the image of God—including with & since the race-based chattel slavery in the U.S.
They countered that wasn’t the revival needed. It was the Azusa Street Revival we need again!! (not the nation-wide church folks’ corporate confessions of superiority including folks of all hues perpetuating superiority, for which I prayed.)
I still ponder how our friends, loved ones, & church folks trumpeting the ideology of white Christian nationalism (wCN) claim the need for the Azusa Street Revival again (and along with conspiracy theories.)
Learning from “The Spirit of Justice” about historical appropriation, I think many have applied historical appropriation to the Azusa Street Revival. I learned the complete historical account from Dr. Jemar Tisby.
Which aspects of the Azusa Street Revival are folks, holding to the ideology & heresies of wCN, promoting as needed again now?
Three I would recommend are: “The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy: And the Path to a Shared American Future” by Robert P. Jones, “The Bible Told Them So” (How Southern Evangelicals Fought to Preserve White Supremacy) by J. Russell Hawkins, and “White Evangelical Racism” by Dr. Anthea Butler.
Any kind of truth stings for those who are opposed to hearing it, don’t you think? ‘The Color of Compromise’ was a well-researched, thorough and straightforward account of our history and it significantly impacted me. It’s informed my work moving forward. The most delicious part? It was required reading in our ‘social & cultural issues in counseling’ class in the MAC program at RTS! 😂💪
If ‘Spirit of Justice’ was a children’s story, there would still be detractors. The Church is full of humans and we’re all in wild need of a savior. Simultaneously, nothing is wasted. Thank you for your efforts. I cannot wait to receive my copy.
I just ordered the book and wait in anticipation of its arrival tomorrow. I wish all folks of faith would read it and quite honestly, I've rarely given a rat's behind what your critics might think. Keep up the great work.
I just finished Robert P. Jones' book "White Too Long." It lays out the history in white versions of Christianity and how it all become so intertwined.
Willie James Jennings' book "The Christian Imagination" also for its historical and theological value in helping paint the picture for the mindset and imagination that came about to bolster racism, slavery, and the doctrine of discovery as well as a well laid out conclusion for how we reimagine our relationships with others in the world.
Almost 30 years ago I started reading sources from the Trans-Appalachian backcountry and Methodist Circuit Rider memoirs. It struck me how unchristian our society was. Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States started to feel much less problematic. Just two chapters into your Audible edition. Is it that hostile reviews ignore thesis statements?
In Amos 5:21-23 Yahweh rejects the hypocritical worship of Israel. Then in verse 24 he declares: But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.
The imagery of a waterfall ( like at the entrance of MLK Jr Memorial Museum, Atlanta ) is clear, potent, and inspiring …
And I for one .. will not stop weeping , waiting , worshipping .. until Christ is glorified .. even here in this United States of America ..
I am half way through listening to your book on audible...what I have appreciated most so far is the connection you make between faith and practice....a connection I pray more white christians make in this upcoming election...
"I contend that racism, however horrific, is unsurprising. There are always people willing to count themselves superior in order to exploit others." -- This is so true: bullies on the playground, "mean girls", any group that looks down on others because of financial status, dress, beliefs, background, job, etc. It seems to be natural for us sinners to put others down so we can be 'better than'. If Christians, at least, fully accepted their identity in Christ, this shouldn't happen.
"My thesis in The Color of Compromise was that, on the whole, white Christians in the United States demonstrated complicity with racism instead of confronting it." -- If this weren't true, then we would see much more racial justice today than we do.
I have already purchased your book before it was released, & after I just became a paid subscriber. (Thanks to your free podcast to new folks.)Please give the book offered here to another who cannot afford it.
Thanks!!!! Pay it forward. SR🕊
William J. Seymour & the Azusa Street Revival described in “The Spirit of Justice” & by PBS
After George Floyd’s murder, I received pushback from Christian loved ones. One friend corrected my praying for revival with collective confessions by Christians for our ancestors’ past & our present sins of superiority over fellow humanity—also made with equal amounts of the image of God—including with & since the race-based chattel slavery in the U.S.
They countered that wasn’t the revival needed. It was the Azusa Street Revival we need again!! (not the nation-wide church folks’ corporate confessions of superiority including folks of all hues perpetuating superiority, for which I prayed.)
I still ponder how our friends, loved ones, & church folks trumpeting the ideology of white Christian nationalism (wCN) claim the need for the Azusa Street Revival again (and along with conspiracy theories.)
Learning from “The Spirit of Justice” about historical appropriation, I think many have applied historical appropriation to the Azusa Street Revival. I learned the complete historical account from Dr. Jemar Tisby.
Which aspects of the Azusa Street Revival are folks, holding to the ideology & heresies of wCN, promoting as needed again now?
Spoiler alert:
https://www.pbs.org/thisfarbyfaith/journey_3/p_9.html
Twenty-some pages into "Spirit." I like your writing style and your thoughtfulness. Looking forward to learning here. Thanks.
Three I would recommend are: “The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy: And the Path to a Shared American Future” by Robert P. Jones, “The Bible Told Them So” (How Southern Evangelicals Fought to Preserve White Supremacy) by J. Russell Hawkins, and “White Evangelical Racism” by Dr. Anthea Butler.
Any kind of truth stings for those who are opposed to hearing it, don’t you think? ‘The Color of Compromise’ was a well-researched, thorough and straightforward account of our history and it significantly impacted me. It’s informed my work moving forward. The most delicious part? It was required reading in our ‘social & cultural issues in counseling’ class in the MAC program at RTS! 😂💪
If ‘Spirit of Justice’ was a children’s story, there would still be detractors. The Church is full of humans and we’re all in wild need of a savior. Simultaneously, nothing is wasted. Thank you for your efforts. I cannot wait to receive my copy.
I just ordered the book and wait in anticipation of its arrival tomorrow. I wish all folks of faith would read it and quite honestly, I've rarely given a rat's behind what your critics might think. Keep up the great work.
After I received teaching about white fragility I became able to recognize it in myself and others. I definitely see it in Fortson's review.
I just finished Robert P. Jones' book "White Too Long." It lays out the history in white versions of Christianity and how it all become so intertwined.
Willie James Jennings' book "The Christian Imagination" also for its historical and theological value in helping paint the picture for the mindset and imagination that came about to bolster racism, slavery, and the doctrine of discovery as well as a well laid out conclusion for how we reimagine our relationships with others in the world.
Almost 30 years ago I started reading sources from the Trans-Appalachian backcountry and Methodist Circuit Rider memoirs. It struck me how unchristian our society was. Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States started to feel much less problematic. Just two chapters into your Audible edition. Is it that hostile reviews ignore thesis statements?
Keep the faith , my Brother .. the battle belongs to the Lord ..
In Amos 5:21-23 Yahweh rejects the hypocritical worship of Israel. Then in verse 24 he declares: But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.
The imagery of a waterfall ( like at the entrance of MLK Jr Memorial Museum, Atlanta ) is clear, potent, and inspiring …
And I for one .. will not stop weeping , waiting , worshipping .. until Christ is glorified .. even here in this United States of America ..
Oh come ! Oh come Lord Jesus ( Revelations ) …
❤️💚💙💫